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PoolvergnuegenPoolCleanerTroubleshooting.

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RPMS

Themostcommonproblem(95%ofthetime)isthattheunitisnotgettingenoughsuctionorgetting

waytoomuch.Youcannotseethedifferencebetweenfastandslowwiththenakedeye!Oftenthe

Previouscleanerdidn’tworkduetolackofsuctionoritwassowornthey

hadtocrankupthesuction.

Whenwelookattheunitwealwayslookattheunitfrombehind.AsifitisacardrivingAWAYfromus.

WealwayscounttheRPMs(Revolutionsperminute…howmanytimesthewheelturnsaroundinone

minute)on

therightfrontwheel(lookingfrombehind).Thereasonforthisisthattheleftfrontwheel

hasthesteeringsystemanditalternatesbetweenforwardandbackwards.Soanycountingofthe

alternatingturnsdoesnotresultinanynumberthatismeasureable.Inotherwordscountthewheel

that

onlygoesonedirection!

SYMPTOMS

VeryHighRPMS

 Cleanerisfallingonitsside(thiscanalsobefloatsonleaderhosemissing).

 Cleanerisdoingwheeliesandtippingbackward.

 Cleanerisslippingalittlebecauseitcan’tpullthehosefastenough.

 Climbsoutandsucksairconstantly(thiscanalso

beworntires).

 Cleanerisnotcoveringpool.TheCamismadetoworkintheproperrangeofRPMS.Soitwill

seemlikeitisturningalot.KeyhereisthatitturnsBUTgoesstraightinbetween.Ifitisjust

turningnevergoingstraight

thereissomethingwrongwiththesteering.

VerylowRPMS

 Cleanerisnotcoveringpool.

 Cleanergetsstuckincorners.Orhunguponthings.

 Cleanerisfallingonitsside(thiscanalsobefloatsonleaderhosemissing).

 Cleanerstutters.StopGoStopGo.The

rpmsaresolowthatthefrictionfromthefloorstopsthe

cleaner.(Theysayitworkswhenthewigglehose.Orifitisn’ttouchingfloor.Youcan holdthe

cleaner2ftunderthewaterandjumpstarttherightfrontwheelanditwillturnandyou

get

somethingridiculouslike3to5rpms.)

 Hosescoil(thiscanalsobetheswivelontheheadisdirty).

 Cleanerwon’tclimb.

Summary of content (16 pages)

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Poolvergnuegen PoolCleaner Troubleshooting. RPMS The most common problem (95% of the time)is that the unit is not getting enough suction or getting way too much. You cannot see the difference between fast and slow with the naked eye! Often the Previous cleaner didn’t work due to lack of suction or it was so worn they had to crank up the suction. When we look at the unit we always look at the unit from behind. As if it is a car driving AWAY from us.
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Poolvergnuegen PoolCleaner Troubleshooting. NOTE: Here is a trick that we do on the phone when checking RPMS with the customer. During the discussion we typically mention the RPMS should be between 11 and 14. Since homeowners and pool guys alike tend to lie about the actual RPMS when we check it on the phone with them we time them to only 30 seconds and have them count the RPMS. So whatever the result is, you multiply by 2 for the actual RPMS. If they say 14 or whatever they are typically lying.
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Poolvergnuegen PoolCleaner Troubleshooting. Cleaner function CHECK To check the function of the cleaner you can take it with the sticker facing away from you. Turn the right front wheel forward. This action tells you many things. Whether there is an obstruction, if something is worn or broken. If the unit has something stuck in it you will not be able to turn the right front wheel forward. It will be stuck. If you can turn it but it ratchets then something is worn or broken.
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Poolvergnuegen PoolCleaner Troubleshooting. THE POOLCLEANER DOES NOT MOVE Possible Cause Cleaner moving too slow The pump may be turned off or on low speed. The three way valve may be in the wrong position. The system may be dirty. The pump may not be primed You may have a suction leak. There could be a problem or obstruction somewhere in the system. Obstruction in the PoolCleaner itself. Turbine vanes in the wrong direction.
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Poolvergnuegen PoolCleaner Troubleshooting. THE POOLCLEANER MOVES TOO SLOW (less than 11 RPM) Possible Cause There could be a problem or obstruction somewhere in the system. Low wheel RPM (insufficient flow) Obstruction in the PoolCleaner itself. See also the solutions for the cleaner "does not move" above. Solution Clean and backwash the filter, clean the pump basket, make sure the vacuum hose is free from debris and leaks, check if pump impeller is blocked (see pump manual).
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Poolvergnuegen PoolCleaner Troubleshooting. THE LOOPS IN THE HOSES WONT COME OUT Possible Cause The hoses must have been stored in a coiled position. Dirt in the swivel cone. (Swivel on the head of the cleaner). Leaf Canister in wrong place. Leader hose is kinked. Solution Lay them straight in the sunlight. If that doesn't work, replace that section of hose. Next time store them straight! You can get a PoolCleaner Keeper to solve this problem.
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Poolvergnuegen PoolCleaner Troubleshooting. The vacuum hose is too short. PoolCleaner hoses away. Make sure return fittings are pointed DOWN. (See manual) The hoses must be one to two lengths longer than the farthest point from attachment.(See manual) THE POOLCLEANER WONT CLIMB THE WALL. Possible Cause See “moves too slow” and “doesn’t clean entire pool” (See above) The float position may need to be adjusted. Pool surface too slick. Not enough Suction.
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Poolvergnuegen PoolCleaner Troubleshooting. THE POOLCLEANER CLIMBS THE WALL TOO MUCH OR IT CLIMBS OUT. Possible Cause Too much suction (flow). Tires may be worn. Need to regulate flow. Solution Decrease the suction to the cleaner. Lower the RPMS The tire treads may be worn and/or the skirts may be worn, hence increasing the suction under the machine. See below for how to check tire wear. May need a bypass valve or need to adjust auto skim plate.
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SOLUTION The PoolCleaner does not move. Check wheel RPM. Obstruction in the PoolCleaner itself. If there was an obstruction make sure vanes are replaced correctly The pump may be turned off or on low speed. The pump may not be primed. Check for leaks in the system (symptoms--bubbles from the returns ?) Possible other problem or obstruction in the system. Pump impeller blocked? Filter needs backwashing. Clean pump basket, skimmers. Turbine vanes/blades in wrong direction and/or wrong side.
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F R O N T 1 2 3 4 5 TROUBLESHOOTING YOUR POOLCLEANER POOLCLEANER OBSTRUCTION 1. Rotate the right front wheel forward (the grill is the front) . If it wont move there is an obstruction. 2. Remove the three screws that hold the Shroud ( Top Cover ). 3. Remove the Shroud. 4. Remove the turbine cover ( wiggle it up and off ). 5. Visually inspect the cleaner. Remove any debris found in the turbine, reduction gears, wheel hubs etc..
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To Change the Turbine Hub of the PoolCleaner 1. Remove the two front wheels. 2. Remove shroud with Phillips (3 self tapping screws) B R L F 3. Remove Upper body assembly. 4. Remove steering slide assembly with shaft and 2 springs (Front Left) The machine is marked R and L on side wall) 5.Remove ¼” S/S shaft from left to right using a smaller shaft or Philips screw driver (Smaller than ¼” otherwise the hole will be destroyed). 6.
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7. Insert shaft from right to left, first through the turbine hub, then through the 2 gears and then through the cam all the way into the left side body. Flush with the outside of the left side. (Remove the elastic band) 8. Insert steering slide assembly with two springs and shaft (Make sure it bottoms out and does NOT push the drive gear assembly out) (Bearing to be flush with outside of right lower body). R L 9. Place upper body assembly back on lower body. 10.
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2 Wheel PoolCleaner First Generation (older) 204 426 172 167 068 365 051 198 112 143 464 259 211 051 136 457 501 471 235 792 280 1 2 3 4 5 6a. 6b. 6c. 181 952 488 143 Item Key 419 099 228 389 198 6d.
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NEXT GEN 204 488 167 068 365 051B 6a. 471 235 792B 6b. 6c. 143 464 976 983 1 2 3 4 5 181 on back of shroud handle 143 Item Key 426 172 952 2 Wheel PoolCleaner 976 983 051B 112 280 136 457 259 211 501 419 099 228 389 990 6d.
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First Generation (older) 204 Item Key 172 181 952 167 488 143 198 068 365 471 082 808 419 211 501 280 242 143 198 051 136 457 259 1 2 3 4 5 129 051 464 112 4 Wheel PoolCleaner 105 228 Description Top Shroud Screw Kit (3 Screws per Kit) Top Shroud Kit (shroud + 3 screws) Upper Body Assemb (turbine cover) Turbine Vane Kit (6 per kit) suction Wheel Hub Assemb Front Tires with Super Humps Blue(2 per kit) for 6a. concrete Front Tires with Hump Blue (2 per kit) for vinyl and 6b.
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4 Wheel PoolCleaner NEXT GEN 488 204 Item Key 1 2 3 4 5 172 952 181 on back of shroud handle 167 143 068 365 082 051B 464 808B 112 419 211 501 143 129 051B 136 457 259 242 976 976 983 471 280 105 228 983 Description Top Shroud Screw Kit (3 Screws per Kit) Top Shroud Kit (shroud + 3 screws) Upper Body Assemb (turbine cover) Turbine Vane Kit (6 per kit) suction Wheel Hub Assemb Front Tires with Super Humps Blue(2 per kit) for 6a.